[WikiEN-l] Time to reboot wikien-l

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Thu Nov 15 22:11:40 UTC 2007


On Nov 15, 2007 9:09 PM, William Pietri <william at scissor.com> wrote:

> David Gerard wrote:
> > http://original-research.blogspot.com/2007/11/wikien-l.html
> >
> > Others have been saying this and I'm increasingly convinced. Time to
> > write some harsher content rules, then start over with no-one joined
> > until they expressly join.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
>
> I'm all for trying something different. Of the dozen or so lists I
> actually follow, this one definitely has the worst signal-to-noise ratio.
>
> We can't get away with hot-tubbing[1] here, alas. So I'd suggest we come
> up with a few different lists, at least some of which are very strict in
> purpose, with charters ruthlessly enforced.
>
> Off the top of my head, I'd suggest these:
>
>    * wikien-interesting: A maximum of few posts a day of interesting
>      things about or on Wikipedia. Heavily moderated, with the
>      assumption that most posts are rejected. It would include
>      interesting press mentions, new research, major activity on the
>      site, or links to especially interesting blog posts about
>      Wikipedia. No discussion, ever. Kinda like a Wikipedia-specific
>      Boing Boing.
>    * wikien-forum: A heavily moderated (or perhaps better put, curated)
>      discussion list. Slow-paced, thoughtful discussion, limited in
>      volume, and with a strong bias against rejecting rants,
>      windmill-tilting, person-to-person argument, repetition, and
>      points unlikely to lead anywhere interesting, and a mild bias
>      against posts from frequent contributors.
>    * wikien-open: The relatively open discussion that takes up much of
>      the list now, with a bit more behavior-based moderation.
>
>
> In some community contexts I'd lean toward something even more open,
> something like "wikien-open-sewer". But although it would be good to
> channel that energy away from the main lists, I suspect we're better off
> letting that happen somewhere else on the Internet.
>
> I could also see a place for some topic-specific lists, but none come to
> mind right away.
>
>
> William


I agree, a nice theory. I'd support

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