[WikiEN-l] Featured editors?

Durova nadezhda.durova at gmail.com
Sat Nov 10 16:09:55 UTC 2007


I'm not convinced that in this case we're dealing with an Awbrey sock. Among
other issues this one takes a more moderate stance than Awbrey has
previously
about the role of experts. Awbrey socks should of course be blocked on
sight.
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Here's the rub: I have no doubt that Awbrey would show intense interest in
whatever evidence and logic JzG might provide in a public list such as this
to convince you that he was dealing with an Awbrey sock.

I do not endorse the tone of some of JzG's comments (scold, scold - set the
right example, dude).

I do sympathize with his frustration: quite a few people abuse the concept
of AGF to assume bad faith on the part of those of us who do the hard work
of deciphering these cases and acting upon them.  Dan Tobias's posts,
although civil, frequently cross that line.

Want a recent example?  See the workshop of the recent Alkivar case.  Even
though the Committee reached a unanimous decision after seeing my evidence,
some Wikipedians were all too ready to presume I had some sort of grudge
against Alkivar.  They didn't even inquire what interaction Alkivar and I
had outside of events directly related to that case (virtually none) and
what good faith motive I might have had for investigating the
Alkivar-Burntsauce situation (I had been one of the leading investigators on
JB196 and was following up on that).  Never mind that I had also disclosed
the greater part of that evidence to trusted Wikipedians outside the
Committee, and not a single one objected to my findings either privately or
publicly.

If you attempt to erect a standard whereby each of us sleuths must describe
the full details of our work on the complicated cases in public to
everyone's full satisfaction, then no one will be pleased.  We are not going
to do that in public - the information would be too valuable to the very
people we work so hard to foil - and the question itself is profoundly
discourteous.  People who don't do this hard work, and who have no intention
of doing this work, cannot expect those of us who do to treble our workload
for your entertainment.

-Durova


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