[WikiEN-l] Pakistani politicians and systemic bias

[charles.r.matthews at ntlworld.com]

"John Lee" wrote

> In all fairness, [[Chaudhry Zahoor Elahi]] in its original state was
> completely unsalvageable. 

You don't think that the fact that the article's creator also that day edited [[Pakistan Muslim League (Q)]] and [[General Pervez Musharraf]] was any sort of clue that we might want the article?

Charles

Charles
In the case of [[Chaudhry Ghulam Ahmed Zamurrad]],
> though, there was a clear assertion of notability; at the very least, the
> onus is on the tagger and/or admin to do some basic Googling to see if
> there's a prima facie indication that this isn't patent nonsense.
> 
> These aren't the best examples to illustrate problems with the current
> deletion system, though. Every now and then when I check up on [[C:CSD]], I
> see articles like [[Maki Pulido]] tagged for speedying despite clear
> *examples* of notability within the article itself. This is systemic bias at
> its best; Pulido's article is especially interesting because after I removed
> the speedy tag, the tagger tagged it for PROD under the dubious reason that
> it had no sources (honestly, why is this a deletion criterion?) - something
> easily refutable by the fact that the article linked to the Philippine TV
> station's webpage on Pulido.
> 
> Not related to speedy deletion in particular, I still remember the time that
> someone insisted that the upper and lower houses of Malaysia's Parliament
> were insufficiently notable to be separate articles, and proposed merging
> them into [[Parliament of Malaysia]]. It's very clear to me that we have a
> substantial systemic bias when it comes to new content, although I'm
> reluctant to draw any wideranging and broad conclusions from this.
> 
> Johnleemk
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