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users per hour, or 500/day.

On 6/21/07, David Goodman <dgoodmanny at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/21/07, Skander - <shinywater at gmail.com> wrote:
> > What about a "WikiProject adopting articles by new users" (possibly a
> > subdivision of WP:ADOPT)? The members could categorise articles in something
> > like "Category:Articles by new users" and template it appropriately so the
> > article doesn't get instantly deleted, and we might just attract many more
> > new contributors. WP is way too complicated with its millions of policies
> > and Notability criteria already, and too much anon good faith edits are
> > marked as vandalism or reverted without further comment.
> > (I made this up in a few seconds so don't flame me too hard if this idea is
> > ridiculous ^^)
> >
> > -Salaskan
> >
> > 2007/6/21, David Goodman <dgoodmanny at gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > In addition to keeping articles from good editors, we need to find a
> > > way to encourage the keeping and improvement from those less skilled,
> > > and teaching them in the process.
> > >
> > > On 6/18/07, K P <kpbotany at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On 6/18/07, Andrew Gray <shimgray at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On 18/06/07, K P <kpbotany at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Sadly adding new topics becomes not a drive to add them, but more
> > > time
> > > > > > spent trying to keep them, then it takes to actually enter and write
> > > > > > them. (...)  Inappropriate deletion creates time, it diverts
> > > people's
> > > > > > energies from what interests them, what brought them to Wikipedia in
> > > > > > the first place, and forces them to "save" articles that should be
> > > in
> > > > > > Wikipedia.
> > > > >
> > > > > I know I only ever seem to reply to you when you talk about
> > > > > deletionism, but it occurs to me I've never brought up my experience.
> > > > >
> > > > > I spent a lot of my on-wiki time of the first half of the year
> > > > > churning out a large set of stubby "framework articles" on various
> > > > > topics; nothing remarkable, a couple of sentences each and a reference
> > > > > and some categories. I was, at times, turning out ten an hour. A lot
> > > > > of them even *I* consider borderline significant - we're talking
> > > > > "obscure Victorian statutes" here.
> > > > >
> > > > > I got one nomination for deletion - a mistaken speedy from someone who
> > > > > was confused about a disambiguation page (well, duh, of *course* it
> > > > > had no content). Looking through the list I keep in userspace, maybe
> > > > > three have been nominated for deletion, and two were kept - the third
> > > > > was a decision I don't agree with, but it fit with an existing line of
> > > > > consensus dating back quite a while. One got politely queried - so I
> > > > > explained thier significance better - and one got merged into a larger
> > > > > page, where it was arguably more useful anyway.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, you know, there's my anecdote, just to balance all these tales of
> > > > > woe. I'm running at maybe 1% of articles challenged for inclusion, and
> > > > > only a fraction of those removed. Maybe I get deference (but I doubt
> > > > > it); maybe I just have the knack of making things look "right" in
> > > > > their first draft; maybe my working hours are less 'dangerous' than
> > > > > yours. But I don't meet a piranha tank of deletion; I create and
> > > > > watchlist and forget, and they sit there for months.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > - Andrew Gray
> > > > >  andrew.gray at dunelm.org.uk
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I haven't started a lot of articles, maybe 30-50.  But many are single
> > > > line stubs. I haven't had any of them put up for deletion, even the
> > > > single liners that no one else has ever edited (after one of my
> > > > stalkers copyedited, of course).  The pictures always get edited
> > > > (although my image editor is currently on vacation), and they often
> > > > get categorized, and they get linked to, because they're organisms
> > > > that get linked to their family or families to their orders or to
> > > > their phyla or divisions, but they don't get prodded or AfDed.  I did
> > > > start some as an anon IP also, and none of those were deleted.
> > > >
> > > > KP
> > > >
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