[WikiEN-l] BLP, and admin role in overriding community review

Todd Allen toddmallen at gmail.com
Thu May 24 09:01:31 UTC 2007


doc wrote:
> Trebor Rowntree wrote:
>   
>> On 5/24/07, doc <doc.wikipedia at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> 2) And this is important - although Smith and Lewinsky
>>> are only notable for one thing - the fact that Lewinsky's life has been
>>> so public means we can write a full balanced biography for her. He bio
>>> want say "she sucked Clinton's cock" it will say something about her
>>> background, career, life after the incident - in short we get the whole
>>> person. One incident yes - but that's given us enough sources to write
>>> the biography. We have no sources to write a biography on Smith (and if
>>> we find out any more it is likely to be OR) - only to record an
>>> incident. That's not a biography.
>>>
>>>       
>> But in cases like these (for private individuals), BLP actually says to
>> include "*only* material relevant to their notability." As David Gerard
>> said, including things like someone's GPA is absurd and unnecessary f that
>> has no relevance to that person's fame. But aiming to write a full balanced
>> biography directly opposes including only material relevant to notability.
>> Which are we supposed to be doing?
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> Monica's whole life is notable - there are basted biographies on her. 
> There may be 'the incident' but the incident has made her whole life a 
> notable, sources and verifiable story. We can write a biography. The 
> same is true for the Olympic medal winner - notable only for winning 
> medals, but because of that, a lot of biographical details that are 
> otherwise notable, are already recorded in good sources.
>
> But if the notability refers only to the incident and nothing else has 
> really been recorded by good sources - then all we can write about is 
> the incident - then we can't write a biography.
>
> A good thing to ask yourself is: if this person died tomorrow, would any 
> newspaper, or important publication in the subject area, print an 
> obituary. If the answer is 'No - no chance' then we probably should not 
> have a biography.
>
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I'm not sure that's a very good way to do it. Newspapers will print an
obituary of damn near anyone.

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