[WikiEN-l] Bauer DRV question - history (was Wikimedia Foundation sued)

MacGyverMagic/Mgm macgyvermagic at gmail.com
Tue Mar 27 10:39:27 UTC 2007


On 3/27/07, Jimmy Wales <jwales at wikia.com> wrote:
>
> Nick Wilkins wrote:
> > On 3/26/07, Jimmy Wales <jwales at wikia.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I don't see any particular problem with that.  The Admins know what
> they
> >> are doing.
> >
> >
> >
> > ... woah.
> >
> > That's quite the statement.  We've apparently come quite far from the
> idea
> > that adminship is no big deal.  Not that I have a problem with that, per
> se,
> > but telling non-admins to trust "the Admins" with policy decisions is
> > something that seems a major departure from previous practice here.
>
> We are talking about very rare cases.  The particular case in question
> is quite remarkable.
>
> We have a choice: WP:OFFICE where actions are carried out by single
> staff members or by me personally (which does not scale, and carries
> with it enormous risks of bias), or relaxing just a little bit and
> trusting the community of admins to oversee each other.
>
> What is NOT a choice is keeping vicious crap up on the site while people
> discuss it.  There's no point to that.
>
> --Jimbo


In all of this, no one even addressed what was the BLP violation and which
sources are lacking.
Deleting something without doing the legwork is a case of bias. I'd rather
have actions be taken by people who have all the facts than people who claim
there is a BLP violation without clarifying the issue.

Keeping "vicious crap" is an option. Only a handful of admins can now see
it, of which only a handful have the knowledge to determine the reliability
of the sources. If this history remains hidden, I doubt any more than 10
knowledgeable people can see it. I'm all for open discussion, but deletions
should depend on people who have done the research, not on personal opinions
after a cursory glance.

Mgm


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