[WikiEN-l] WP:V, WP:RS, WP:NOR and WP:ATT

[Jossi Fresco]

On Mar 21, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote:

> We all appreciate that a great deal of work went into this.  The  
> problem is, despite all those efforts, people still didn't know.   
> Jeff didn't know.  I didn't know.  I'm on wiki every day, and think  
> of myself as fairly well informed.  I get Signpost.  I read VP as  
> much as I possibly can.  But I don't read every arb case that's  
> published - why would I?  Why would most of us,  ESPECIALLY non- 
> admins (like myself)?
>
> I can't tell you how many times I see people site V and NOR in  
> discussions, and not once in ANY of those that I saw did anyone  
> mention this.  That alone should tell you that there are well- 
> informed editors that didn't know.
>
> Also, your last paragraph ends with the words "that has not been  
> disputed."  Actually, your premise has been disputed.  By Jimmy.

Sure. We need to find a way so that people are informed so we don't  
find ourselves ever again in such quagmire. It is really painful.

At least, it is raising really good questions, such as Jimbo's role  
in policy formulation, use of polls (or not) to gauge consensus for  
changes to policy or development of new policies, etc.

In the future, we would be quite happy when look back to this day. I  
am certain we will say that this was all a "good thing" for the project.

-- Jossi