[WikiEN-l] A narrower concept of boldness

[Skander -]

WP:BOLD has got nothing to do with administrative actions, which anyone
should bloody well know. Slap anyone who applies the policy for things like
deleting a page with a very, very wet trout.

-Salaskan
(P.S. I went bold at the "be bold" article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Be_bold&diff=139769937&oldid=139269133
)

2007/6/22, Silas Snider <swsnider at gmail.com>:
>
> Except... WP:BOLD has been interpreted to apply to such actions as
> deletion, which are not so easily reversed (the phrase 'wheel-warring'
> starts occurring if you just hit 'revert').
>
> Sincerely,
> Silas Snider
>
>
> On 6/21/07, Skander - <shinywater at gmail.com> wrote:
> > MediaWiki has this nice thing called a "revert button", which makes
> boldness
> > not harmful in any way. How else do you want to keep Wikipedia's open
> spirit
> > and anti-elitism? The power of wiki's is that anyone can edit anything
> and,
> > most importantly, can revert anything, so boldness should be encouraged.
> If
> > something is done against consensus "per WP:BOLD", who cares, revert it
> and
> > discuss. WP:BRD.
> >
> > -Salaskan
> >
> > 2007/6/21, David Goodman <dgoodmanny at gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > As for BOLD, I have never seen it cited for good ends; most good
> > > editing doesn't need it. It is usually used as the attempted
> > > justification for edits against the consensus. Personally I'd rather
> > > remove it from the guidelines altogether, but it is referred to so
> > > many times that perhaps it should be written in a way that would make
> > > it less likely to be misused. I see there's an active discussion
> > > there.
> > >
> > > On 6/18/07, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On 18/06/07, Eagle 101 <eagle.wikien.l at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ignore all Rules is common sense written into policy.  The concept
> > > behind it
> > > > > (at least to me) is that if ignoring the rules help you improve
> the
> > > > > encyclopaedia (and that is your intent when you ignored the
> rules),
> > > there is
> > > > > a decent chance that you are doing something right, even if it
> does
> > > not meet
> > > > > our policy XYZ, section 3, subsection c. How it is to be used is
> > > another
> > > > > matter, when ignoring the rules you probably have a decent
> rational
> > > behind
> > > > > why doing so improves the encyclopaedia, otherwise its hard to
> justify
> > > > > should someone ask. Merely shouting IAR when you don't like a
> > > particular
> > > > > rule is not useful. But if you ignore the rules and the net
> benefit is
> > > to
> > > > > the encyclopaedia (yes that thing we are trying to build ya know
> ;) )
> > > then
> > > > > its likely a useful action (edit whatever).
> > > > > Ignore all rules is intended to be hard to pin down, to avoid
> > > codifying how
> > > > > to ignore all rules ;).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Let me pimp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:PRO once more.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - d.
> > > >
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