[WikiEN-l] Editing with open proxies

Eagle 101 eagle.wikien.l at gmail.com
Tue Jun 19 14:13:16 UTC 2007


Mmm, I think the civility thing directly helps us work on the encyclopaedia.
It was made so that when you disputed what another person put in the
encyclopaedia that you did not shout  "YOU ABUSIVE F***ER, THATS SO TOTALLY
WRONG" or some other random very insulting language. Civility is just how to
get along with one another.

The principle of assuming good faith generally is linked to helping people
remain civil. If I assume that  you too are trying to help the encyclopaedia
(and not maliciously hurt it through the insertion of false information),
then its very likely that I will treat the person in which I'm working with
to build the encyclopaedia in a more helpful manner, and work with him to
figure out if what was being added should stay added. At least that is how
things look from this guy :)

On 6/18/07, Gracenotes <wikigracenotes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 6/18/07, Slim Virgin <slimvirgin at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > There you go again: assertions with no evidence. It's a demonstrable
> > fact that many non-vandalism blocks, and possibly most, are punitive,
> > whatever happier word we prefer to describe them as. Spend a day
> > checking out the block log and you'll see it for yourself. The
> > argument goes that punishment is part of prevention, and that's true
> > to an extent, but it doesn't make the blocks any less punitive.
>
> The most important part is not that the blocks actually are
> preventative, but the thought process that goes into making
> them considers the preventative, not punitive. The ideology
> that produces the action, not the action itself. That is my
> point. (Banning is an exception to this rule, but that's why
> it's a separate policy.)
>
> > Prescription is bad when it's based on unrealistic ideological baggage
> > that gets in the way of common sense.
>
> Civility, assuming good faith, and ignoring all rules are all part of
> unrealistic ideological baggage that baffle common sense. If we're
> going to write an encyclopedia, let's get to it, right? No, not exactly.
> Assuming good faith is a way of looking at things that all Wikipedians
> should consider when, well, looking at things. It's a prescriptive
> guideline, and if it didn't exist, it certainly would not be widely
> practiced.
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