[WikiEN-l] To have or to have not power -- "giggle," "giggle"

[K P]

On 6/18/07, jayjg <jayjg99 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/18/07, K P <kpbotany at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 6/18/07, jayjg <jayjg99 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 6/18/07, K P <kpbotany at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On 6/18/07, jayjg <jayjg99 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On 6/18/07, K P <kpbotany at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On 6/18/07, elisabeth bauer <eflebeth at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > 2007/6/18, K P <kpbotany at gmail.com>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I was attacked to get me to shut up.  Certainly it was a
> > > > > > > > well-orchestrated, well,  maybe not that well since it wound up being
> > > > > > > > funny and ridiculous, but an attempt at a well-orchestrated gang up to
> > > > > > > > get me to shut up and stop editing because I had the nerve to call
> > > > > > > > someone on their bad conduct.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This happens all the time to editors on Wikipedia.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Could you please provide a link to your case so everybody can form his
> > > > > > > own opinion about it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > greetings,
> > > > > > > elian
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > It's on my talk page, links galore.
> > > > >
> > > > > But what is your editing name????? Where is your Talk: page?????
> > > > >
> > > > > > The issues raised about Jay were concerning his access to tools that
> > > > > > gave him information (and Slim Virgin it appears) that others do not
> > > > > > have access to.
> > > > >
> > > > > Evidence?
> > > > >
> > > > > > Both Slim and Jay revealed this information in RfAs,
> > > > >
> > > > > Where has Slim done so?
> > > > >
> > > > > > Both revealed this information in RfAs,
> > > > >
> > > > > Where has Slim done so?
> > > > >
> > > > > > If the policy is going to be enforced, don't enforce it at politically
> > > > > > charged times only.  Enforce it all of the time.
> > > > >
> > > > > I do enforce it all the time. As I said, I block every open proxy I
> > > > > come across. I've blocked dozens, perhaps hundreds. And *every* time
> > > > > is politically charge on Wikipedia; frankly, especially now, when
> > > > > people are letting bizarre conspiracy theories fly at the drop of the
> > > > > hat, egged on by the banned trolls and WR, and other editors who make
> > > > > all sorts of opaque and unsubstantiated claims, then refuse to explain
> > > > > what they mean or back them up. And the latter refers to you, KP
> > > > > Botany.
> > > > >
> > > > I do back up my claims.  I send them in to the list all the time, just
> > > > for you, all  my little AfD links, like the assertion that American
> > > > Polygraph Association should be deleted because it's not notable, like
> > > > Rock climbing for deletion.
> > >
> > > What is your editing name, where is your Talk: page?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > There are no opaque and unsubstantiated claims coming from me on this
> > > > issue.
> > >
> > > You claimed, more than once, that SlimVirgin had access to, and had
> > > revealed, CheckUser information. What substantiation do you have for
> > > that claim?
> > >
> > Not a claim, I thought she was the one who asked Armedblowfish why he
> > edited through a tor account?
>
> No, *I* was the person who did so. That's what this is all about. I
> would have hoped you would at least have looked at the RFA in question
> before spouting even more wild accusations.
>
> What did you say your userid was? Where can I find this Talk: page you
> allege outlines some sort of cabal efforts against you?
>

Gee, what was I thinking:

Optional question from SlimVirgin
4. Hi, ABF. Can you say why you're editing via open proxies?
SlimVirgin (talk) 09:50, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Armedblowfish

Not surprising simply another diversion for the real issue: the
information IS private, only those with check user tools do have
access to it.

So, what other information is private, but isn't private because those
with check user tools can reveal it at will, and will do or
desperately say anything to limit discussion of their revealing this
privately gained information, privately gained while they are held in
a  position of trust, armed with tools that reveal this information?

Slim Virgin asked the question, either it was already openly known
that Armedblowfish edited through open proxies or Slim Virgin revealed
it.  Take your pick, it doesn't change the first set of questions.
Nothing you Jay or Slim have attempted to use to gloss over answering
it has done that.

I'm a member of the community and I want to know what information
about me can be gained incidently through check user and then is not
considered private and may be revealed?

KP