[WikiEN-l] Question for Jay and Slim: Checking EXISTING admins for open proxy use

Fred Bauder fredbaud at waterwiki.info
Sun Jun 17 14:43:36 UTC 2007


We do not engage, as an organization, in the harassment of valued contributors. Thus whether administrators are using open proxies is not an appropriate subject for investigation. In addition, the focus of attention on Jayjg and Slim Virgin is wholly inappropriate. If they have overstepped with respect to this issue, they can be depended on to adjust their behavior.

Fred

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joe Szilagyi [mailto:szilagyi at gmail.com]
>Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 12:59 AM
>To: wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org
>Subject: [WikiEN-l] Question for Jay and Slim: Checking EXISTING admins for	open proxy use
>
>Jay, I will answer your other direct questions tomorrow from the other
>email. I'm short on time tonight.
>
>1. If proxy usage by admins is "extra" wrong as you contend — and I agree, I
>really do — shall we check every single existing admin or higher account for
>them, to see if anyone is breaking this cardinal rule that is already in
>power? Yes or no? If no, why not?
>
>2. If one is using proxies, immediate revocation of all extra-special access
>for violating Foundation policy, admin or higher. Admin. B'cat. Checkuser.
>Steward. Clearly, as indicated by Slim and Jay on Charlotte's RFA, such
>peoople have *NO* business with the tools. Yes or no? If no, why not?
>
>3. Will both of you agree to immediate CheckUsering, reviewed by multiple
>other checkusers/Foundation staff, and if you are found to be using proxies,
>this is disclosed on-Wiki? Yes or no. If no, why not?
>
>Given the nasty ruckus you initiated--and I was only one of the first to
>draw attention to it; others were already after your actions on-Wiki--this
>demands clear non-evasive answers from both of you to all three very easy
>and clear questions. I am assuming you will both answer in Good Faith, as
>you both on-Wiki stand by the No Open Proxies ideal very firmly. I support
>this policy as well.
>
>Will you stand by your convictions? Failing to answer is an option, but it
>would cast a serious pall if you were unwilling to obey and endorse the same
>rules, policies, and end results you have wrought on others.
>
>Others may feel free to answer, or offer to be checked if they are admins,
>of course.
>
>Regards,
>Joe
>http://www.joeszilagyi.com
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