[WikiEN-l] I'm disappointed in Wikipedia.

michael west michawest at gmail.com
Sat Jun 9 14:02:10 UTC 2007


dunno take it to deletion review. I'm a sucker but wouldn't have
passed you. Next time just find all the guys you edit with to comment
with you. recreate under something in brackets post main text - it
will def get prod and ur fine 4 a week or two!

On 09/06/07, John Lee <johnleemk at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/9/07, Daniel R. Tobias <dan at tobias.name> wrote:
> >
> > No, not for any of the stuff I'm getting into fights about lately,
> > like cliques and BADSITES.  But for one of its article deletions.
> >
> > You see, I was working on edits to one of my personal websites, in
> > this case one about e-mail formatting and related technical and
> > cultural issues ( http://mailformat.dan.info/ ).  I decided, in the
> > course of talking about forwarded messages, to refer to the concept
> > of "glurge", which is the sort of sickeningly-sweet motivational
> > stuff (Norman Vincent Peale - ish) that gets regularly forwarded
> > around the net.  Usually when I do something like that, I like to
> > stick in an external link to some place that describes what I'm
> > talking about, and lately Wikipedia is almost always my first choice
> > to try to find one.  Unfortunately, it turns out that the Wikipedia
> > article on "glurge" has been deleted:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Glurge
> >
> > Thus, I had to go to Snopes instead to find a link to the concept.
> >
> > Wikipedia is often at its best as a place to find balanced, useful
> > references about a variety of subcultural phenomena, Internet memes,
> > and the like.  Why should we cut off our nose by deleting them?
>
>
> As I anticipated, the only reason the article was deleted was a lack of
> sources. That's perfectly fine.
>
> What's not perfectly fine is how lazy people are when it comes to looking
> for sources. I often see quotations tagged with {{fact}} that have sources
> readily available on Google (I just select a random phrase from the quote,
> plug it in, and the search results nearly always yield something useful).
>
> Likewise, http://www.google.com/search?q=Glurge yields more than enough
> sources on the phrase's etymology (though that's more for Wiktionary) and
> background. Is it really that hard to Google something?
>
> Johnleemk
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