[WikiEN-l] Seriously, on BJAODN

[John Lee]

On 6/4/07, James Farrar <james.farrar at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 04/06/07, Brock Weller <brock.weller at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 6/3/07, James Farrar <james.farrar at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > [I fixed your post for you.]
> > >
> > > On 04/06/07, Brock Weller <brock.weller at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 6/3/07, James Farrar <james.farrar at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 03/06/07, Anthony <wikimail at inbox.org> wrote:
> > > > > > On 6/3/07, James Farrar <james.farrar at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 03/06/07, Anthony <wikimail at inbox.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > On 6/3/07, James Farrar <james.farrar at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As I said, if the infringement of copyright is the act of
> > > > > "purchase",
> > > > > > > > > not "sale", the US legal system is seriously fucked up.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Infringement is the act of "copying", "distribution", or
> "public
> > > > > > > > performance/display".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All of which look to me like that which is done by the
> infringer,
> > > not
> > > > > > > by the person who acquires the infringed material.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Most likely, yes, and no one said otherwise.
> > > > >
> > > > > *Bzzzzt*. You said "Each time someone downloads the page there is
> a
> > > > > new infringement". That means that something done by the person
> who
> > > > > acquires the material causes the infringement.
> > > > >
> > > > Each time we serve up copyrighted material is a new infringement.
> It's
> > > not
> > > > hard to understand. Anthony happens to be correct here.
> > >
> > > Ah, so an action by the person receiving the material *does* cause an
> > > infringement! Anthony said it didn't.
> > >
> > It does not. Them recieving it is not the action that causes the
> > infringement, but rather us giving it to them that does.
>
> Ah, but "we" don't give it to "them"; "they" take it. It's "their"
> action, not "ours".


Considering how the HTTP protocol works, by making the page publicly
available, we are publishing it, and every time a user requests the page, we
are publishing it for them. I don't have too much of an opinion on BJAODN;
just pointing this out.

Johnleemk