[WikiEN-l] FredBauder"clarifies"onattackkkkk site link policy

[jayjg]

On 7/14/07, Slim Virgin <slimvirgin at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/14/07, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
> > That's easy to say now, but the problem is not advocacy for WR links -
> > the problem is that no-one is in fact reining in those admins going
> > stupidly overboard in advocating full site bans. The problematic
> > behaviour keeps happening over and over again, and when called on it
> > we see (as we have on this list) that they become abusive to anyone
> > questioning their behaviour, let alone expecting them to acknowledge
> > that it could conceivably be problematic in any way whatsoever.
> >
> > They are arguably being more disruptive and damaging to the community
> > than the damage from the attack site links itself is.
> >
> > David, you don't know what you're talking about, and these personal attacks on the list have to stop. I opposed Gracenotes' RfA because I didn't trust his judgment, and there were a number of reasons for that, which I explained here. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3ARequests_for_adminship%2FGracenotes&diff=133712259&oldid=133707616 Please read that carefully before you comment again. I support people I trust, and I oppose people I don't trust, and my reasoning never rests on one issue. People are entitled to act on their instincts without being attacked for it.
>
> Note that Gracenotes *during his RfA* restored a post from a WR anon
> saying I had never asked them to remove the attacks against me. It was
> nonsense and it was removed by two admins, but Gracenotes restored it.
> That is the kind of thing people opposed him over.
>
> Speaking only for myself, I do not think it was a good idea to try to
> legislate for admins' judgment about links via BADSITES, which is why
> I got only briefly involved, then withdrew when I realized what was
> happening. What happened there is we were trolled and we fell for it.
> I also don't go around removing links, and in fact can't recall when I
> last did it.

Pretty much the same here. In fact, for all the rhetoric directed at
me on the list, I never actually edited the "BADSITES" proposed policy
or its Talk: page.