[WikiEN-l] Schools again

Zoney zoney.ie at gmail.com
Wed Jul 11 22:28:53 UTC 2007

On 11/07/07, Guy Chapman aka JzG <guy.chapman at spamcop.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:03:27 +0100, Zoney <zoney.ie at gmail.com> wrote:
> >Tough. In such an situation there wasn't any consensus reached.
> Wikipedia does "consensus" not consensus.  If you want consensus you
> need to ask the Religious Society of Friends, who will stay at the
> table until everyone agrees.  This was a case where a Wikipedia-style
> consensus, as in pretty much everyone who had any flexibility at all,
> was impeded by the obduracy of one or two hold-outs, with the result
> that a guideline was effectively torpedoed and the matter had to be
> fought out in the court of AfD, which is never a good place.
> Guy (JzG)
"Wikipedia-style consensus"

So why call it consensus? Other than to mislead the general public who
assume the *English* definition of consensus and think Wikipedia is a
wonderful place where everyone eventually agrees and all decisions are made
with general agreement.

Besides, the definition for "consensus" in the Wikipedian language as
opposed to English is not concrete. Your definition essentially allows
people to be ignored/overruled if the decision-makers see fit. Lack of
flexibility/compromise from the objectors is not a valid reason. The
objectors may be right and so it's quite reasonable that they don't


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