[WikiEN-l] FredBauder"clarifies"onattackkkkkkk site link policy

Fred Bauder fredbaud at waterwiki.info
Tue Jul 3 04:15:47 UTC 2007

You're not in good faith. If I go one way, you hate it. if I go the other way, you hate it. The object seems to be hate.


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Daniel R. Tobias [mailto:dan at tobias.name]
>Sent: Monday, July 2, 2007 04:59 PM
>To: wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org
>Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] FredBauder"clarifies"onattackkkkk site link policy
>On 2 Jul 2007 at 17:36:03 +0000, wikien-l-request at lists.wikime wrote:
>> No, I just read the link wrong. I made a mistake. Good thing I
>> wasn't flying an airplane : I'm sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings.
>> Or stirred them up unnecessarily. 
>Unfortunately, this is not the first time you've "stirred" something 
>up unnecessarily as a result of your failure to properly understand 
>policy or the facts of a situation. A couple of months ago, on this 
>list, you were pushing an odd interpretation of the WP:BLP policy 
>that allegedly held that, if any admin claimed that BLP was being 
>violated, and deleted an article as a result, then this decision was 
>unreviewable and unassailable, except by a full-blown Arbcom case, 
>even if the original admin was completely wrongheaded about it. 
>(And, given that somebody recently even attempted a serious argument 
>to the effect that [[Jesus Christ]] was covered by BLP because he 
>rose from the grave, one can't be sure of the policy always being 
>applied sensibly; the checks and balances of normal policy and 
>process are important for helping this.) You were claiming (with no 
>justification) that all of this was provided in the BLP policy, but 
>had to back down from that, and the policy now is that normal process 
>such as DRV can in fact be applied, though there's a presumption in 
>favor of keeping deleted in the case of BLPs anyway.
>I expect much better from somebody in a position of trust who's 
>tasked with interpreting policy and passing judgment on Wikipedians.
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