[WikiEN-l] Consensus vs "groupthink"

MacGyverMagic/Mgm macgyvermagic at gmail.com
Mon Jan 29 00:38:32 UTC 2007


For me "groupthink" has a particular nasty negative conotation.
A dictionary or "wiktionary" might be useful in determining the difference.

Mgm

On 1/29/07, Ron Ritzman <ritzman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Seeing how a few detractors here have been throwing around the term
> "groupthink" I have to ask, is there any real difference between the
> two or does it depend on which side of a "consensus" decision you are
> on? That is, if an article you wrote/are involved with survives AFD,
> then it's "consensus", if it gets deleted, it's "groupthink". Of
> course it's the other way around if it's an article you don't like.
>
> Same with an edit to an active article. If the edit stands, it's
> "consensus" if it's constantly reverted and your persistence gets you
> banned by a "rogue admin (tm)", it's "groupthink".
>
> Therefore, I have to wonder if "groupthink", as long as it doesn't
> lead to an [[Abilene paradox]] might not just be another way of saying
> "consensus" which can either be good or bad. Good if the "consensus"
> decision squares with previously established policies, bad if it
> doesn't.
>
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