[WikiEN-l] Moderation on this mailing list

[Ray Saintonge]

David Gerard wrote:

>On 22/02/07, Oskar Sigvardsson <oskarsigvardsson at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>On 2/22/07, Mark Ryan <ultrablue at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>CheckUser queries are logged. The only administrator to look at the
>>>CheckUser data of all three users you mention is Jpgordon, the very
>>>administrator whose CheckUser actions/results you criticise.
>>>So, unless you're in bed with a developer, I think it's safe to assume
>>>you're lying.
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>>When do we get to the point that we don't allow this shit anymore on
>>wikien? Putting up with all of this makes it way more tiresome than it
>>should be to be to read the list.
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>Put it this way: more than me has thought he's more than one of the
>recent posters with a remarkably low evidence:invective ratio.
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>The poster in question is no longer completely useless to the list. I
>think we're slowly training him to write things that are relevant
>talking points concerning the project.
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I think he has improved.  There are others whom I found strident when 
they first arrived, but who have since become more reasonable.  The 
training of is slow; all it takes is patience.

>I fear that's all we can really do. The fundamental problem is that,
>as long as email addresses are free, it's impossible to keep someone
>entirely off the list without getting really drastic and screening
>just about all messages. And that would in fact make a
>conceptually-moderated list, which would be a failure as a list.
>wikien-l has to be open, as Wikipedia has to be open.
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Strongly agree.