[WikiEN-l] Requirements for Adminship

Jossi Fresco jossifresco at mac.com
Mon Feb 19 15:57:03 UTC 2007


On Feb 18, 2007, at 11:43 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote:

> Just because someone isn't going out of his way to make himself  
> visible
> in the way that some admins do does not mean that he is doing  
> nothing to
> keep Wikipedia ticking.  Your attitude is very broadly  
> disrespectful of
> a wide range of contributors.
>
> Have you forgoten that this thread started with complaints about admin
> burnout.  The general solution that was suggested was to loosen up the
> extreme restrictions on becoming a sysop.  But those content with the
> present state of things argue loudly against it.  You can't have it  
> both
> ways.  Stop complaining about being overworked, or do something about
> the problem.

How can my comment be disrespectful?   And why you interpret my  
comment as "complaining"?

The present state of things, is that any editors can have as much  
involvement in Wikipedia affairs as any admin could. What is the  
difference between an editor that has contributed 20,000 edits in two  
years and that is not an admin, and one with the same level of  
involvement that is one?  Absolutely *nothing*

Of course, there are perception such as yours. But these are  
perceptions, and not facts. These forced distinctions between admins  
and editors is a fallacy. Admins are also editors, and editors can do  
as much as an admin besides deleting an article and closing  AfDs.

Rather than exacerbating the width of the perceived chasm between  
"admin" and "non-admin", we ought to be building bridges.

-- Jossi



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