[WikiEN-l] For your consternation...

Fred Bauder fredbaud at waterwiki.info
Wed Feb 7 22:02:14 UTC 2007


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Fred Bauder [mailto:fredbaud at waterwiki.info]
>Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 02:53 PM
>To: 'English Wikipedia', 'English Wikipedia'
>Cc: bpatrick at wikimedia.org
>Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] For your consternation...
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Andrew Gray [mailto:shimgray at gmail.com]
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 02:23 PM
>>To: 'English Wikipedia'
>>Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] For your consternation...
>>
>>On 07/02/07, George Herbert <george.herbert at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> For your consideration and consternation...
>>>
>>> Is it:
>>> A) Ilegal
>>> B) Immoral
>>> C) Fattening
>>>
>>> ...if US Department of Energy and National Nuclear Security Agency
>>> staffers remove an image repeatedly from a Wikipedia article, which
>>> came from a Department of Energy press photo, showing the Q clearance
>>> badge of the now-former head of NNSA.  The claimed reason for deletion
>>> is that it's illegal to show the badge, despite the fact that Linton
>>> Brooks wore it in public all the time, there are numerous public press
>>> photos of it, and that the image in question came from an unclassified
>>> government press image freely released (though, they subsequently
>>> erased that section of the image with photoshop)...
>>>
>>> Several of us have asked the people removing it to identify themselves
>>> and explain whether the image was subsequently classified or tell us
>>> what law prevents us from legally hosting it, if there is one, and
>>> have heard nothing back.  All they are doing is deleting it over and
>>> over again.
>>
>>I am reminded of a nice chap, editing from somewhere deep in *.mil,
>>who kept trying to remove a map of the Green Zone, citing "operational
>>security" reasons. The fact that we had obtained the map from the
>>website of a US Congressman didn't seem to faze him...
>>
>>(On examination, that claim boiled down to the user not understanding
>>that a rule which said *he* couldn't talk about something didn't have
>>to apply to everyone else)
>>
>>In this case... if there is a legal issue, please direct him to Brad
>>and ask him to cite chapter and verse.
>>
>>-- 
>>- Andrew Gray
>>  andrew.gray at dunelm.org.uk
>
>Done
>
>Fred

Well, No I did not refer him to Brad, but gave Brad a heads up. There is a chance that there is such a law, after all, and it is a public relations problem at any event.

Fred





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