[WikiEN-l] WikiEN-l Digest, Vol 53, Issue 174

Fri Dec 28 14:05:27 UTC 2007

79 desysops..bah..I bet we will have over 100 de-sysops  in 2008..Most
admins quit /leave for two reasons..1 being that they are really stressed
and need to relax so temp wikibreak and secondly, they didn't anticipate
that being an admin means so much work and so they give up because they
can't really cope with the rising number of editors/vandals and "wikidrama"
(f or some )..Cometstyles..

On Dec 29, 2007 12:00 AM, <wikien-l-request at lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:

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>   1. Re: De-sysoppings in the year of 2007 (Ray Saintonge)
>   2. Re: Wired predictions, 2008 (Ray Saintonge)
>   3. Re: New arbitrators named (Ray Saintonge)
>   4. Re: De-sysoppings in the year of 2007 (David Gerard)
>   5. Re: [WikiEn-L] Interesting fact (Mathias Schindler)
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> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:52:18 -0800
> From: Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net>
> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] De-sysoppings in the year of 2007
> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
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> Jonathan (Wikipedia) wrote:
> > Majorly wrote:
> >
> >> Admins are allowed to get tired of it. They aren't forced to do
> anything. It
> >> can be very stressful.
> >>
> > Yet again, I understand that side of the story. But admins who retire
> > because of a grudge against another user is nonsensical to me.
> Maybe so, but then that's their problem, not yours.
>
> Ec
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 01:02:19 -0800
> From: Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net>
> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Wired predictions, 2008
> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
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> Nathan wrote:
> > I foresee a long trial with many evidentiary hearings, and an
> > exploration into the 'body' of work we could draw from to see if there
> > are any other fair use images!
> If the breasts are in the pub[l]ic domain, fair use restrictions may not
> apply.
>
> Ec
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 01:10:17 -0800
> From: Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net>
> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] New arbitrators named
> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
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> Nathan wrote:
> > Following up on this:
> >
> > If the new slates take effect on Jan 1, and new arbs aren't
> > necessarily considered active on current cases from 2007, what happens
> > on Jan 1 to former arbs involved in still active cases? Especially
> > where they voted to accept a particular case, voted at
> > [[WP:RFAR/proposed decision]], etc.? Presumably, these cases will lack
> > a quorum to make a decision if new arbs don't join?
> What would make sense would be for the retiring arbiters to continue
> participating in cases where they are already participating until tha
> cases are decided.
> They just would not be able to get inolved in new ones.
>
> Ec
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:59:01 +0000
> From: "David Gerard" <dgerard at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] De-sysoppings in the year of 2007
> To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
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> On 28/12/2007, Jonathan (Wikipedia) <jonathan.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> > AGK wrote:
>
> > > Similarly, nothing new. Wikipedia's expanding, so is the number of
> > > desysoppings. We've got better things to worry about, surely. AGK
>
> > Yes, I understand that Wikipedia gets more admins with time. But this
> > year had a massive jump in desysops. THAT'S why I'm getting worried.
>
>
> After long complaints that it was almost impossible to get bad admins
> removed, they're now getting removed with reasonable efficiency.
>
>
> - d.
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:51:42 +0100
> From: "Mathias Schindler" <mathias.schindler at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] [WikiEn-L] Interesting fact
> To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
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> On Dec 27, 2007 12:45 AM, Nachman <nachman.chayal at gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> > Additionally, it turns out that if intelligence employees have their
> names
> > published on a site like Wikipedia (even without a connection to their
> > position) they are dismissed or transferred to a public position (i.e .
> > public relations).
>
> Nice way of getting rid of a superior who is occupying a job you envy.
>
> Mathias
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