[WikiEN-l] WP:EPISODE

[White Cat]

Do not advertise 3rd party sites like wikia. I don't care if Jimbo founded
it. Its just like any 3rd party site. Existence of any 3rd party site is no
compromise. I do not write articles just to get Jimbo or some other site
owner get rich. I do it for great encyclopedia only. People can copy it,
reuse it, alter it at will but I do it for the encyclopedia. Lets delete all
content on history as we do have a history wikia right? I thought so.

TTN is uninterested in improving anything. Open you eyes and read my post. I
cited evidence of revert waring and blanking of "list of character"
articles. He empties entire categories without bothering to say a word on
them. And all that is stuff he does in 48 hours.

Out of world content is just the guise:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TTN#Doctor_Who

Their presence obviously hasn't stopped TTN. So long as TTN and others like
him continue the provocative and disruptive mass blankings, I do not expect
to see any resolution. Well... I suppose he will eventually piss off enough
people to generate a non-favorable consensus.

In the perfect world of Wikipedia (don't involve the foundation) we wouldn't
need to be having this conversation as no one would be mass blanking pages.
We have dealt with this for so long on wikipedia. The entire deal with
stubs. This is just a rehash of it. It will blow up just like those
discussions.

   - White Cat

On Dec 30, 2007 7:27 AM, Ned Scott <ned at nedscott.com> wrote:

> You're welcome to try, but I'm not sure how successful that will be
> for -all- of them. You can't blindly defend all episode articles and
> expect them to all have the same conditions. Personally, I do think we
> are in a time where real-world information is growing about
> entertainment, and we will get more real-world information about TV
> shows. But even then, it doesn't always mean that information is best
> represented in a per-episode format. For example, if that information
> can apply to more than one episode, or is more about a character than
> a specific episode, etc.
>
> Still, that's not to say that it isn't possible. The series of The
> Simpsons episode articles continue to surprise me. I think they have
> something like 60 GA articles, and a hand full of FAs. However, even
> if every episode of a show has shown reasonable potential, that
> doesn't always mean that the existing summary is even worth saving.
> Some of them are nothing more than a few sentences that are copied off
> the List_of article.
>
> Recently, since I've become more familiar with moving stuff over to
> external wikis (mainly Wikia), I've realized there should be extra
> care taken when you have something that people have worked on for a
> while. There really isn't any reason why we can't have a place for
> everything. (and in a perfect world, the Wikimedia Foundation would
> have some kind of fiction-wiki, given how high-traffic those articles
> are.) When I come across articles that have a reasonable number of
> edits, and good quality summaries, I myself will not take those to AfD
> (unless a total transwiki, with article history, is possible and done).
>
> If you want to establish that a group of articles should remain, then
> the best way to do that is to show reasonable potential for real-world
> information that would justify those articles. The "cabal" is only
> trying to improve our coverage on fiction, rather than being buried
> under a sea of summary that does a poor job compared to the show itself.
>
> -- Ned Scott
>
> On Dec 29, 2007, at 8:27 PM, David Goodman wrote:
>
> > Yes. Nathan is right that the better strategy is to defend the
> > existing articles, and so establish that such articles should remain
> > on wikipedia. A more widespread intelligent selective good-faith
> > participation in afds is the ordinary wikipedians defense against
> > cabals.
> > And the best of all is to improve existing articles so people will be
> > ashamed even to nominate them--or if they still do, we will establish
> > a solid pattern of snow keep closes.
>
>
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