[WikiEN-l] WP:EPISODE

[Nathan Awrich]

I think there is a specific standard for the notability of fiction for
good reason. I'm not sure that having been seen by millions of glazer
over eyeballs is necessarily enough for something to be notable - it
may be, but I would argue that there have been tons of episodes of
tons of TV shows and in 5 years no one will remember 99 percent of
them, let alone cite them for anything. Additionally, they present
clear RS problems - how often do reliable sources publish a treatment
of a Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode? I wouldn't go undeleting them
unless you first get approval on policy changes. I'm sure the
fan-types will support you, but the community in general seems to be
leaning away from your position.

On Dec 20, 2007 7:43 PM, Bryan Derksen <bryan.derksen at shaw.ca> wrote:
> joshua.zelinsky at yale.edu wrote:
> > Ok, I've asked at that page if there is any real consensus for the
> > guideline. If
> > you have an opinion, feel free to comment. I'm about to go on vacation
> > now, and
> > will leave therefore thankfully miss any ensuing drama.
>
> I've chipped in too now, for folks who want a direct link it's at
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Television_episodes#Is_there_any_actual_consensus_for_this_guideline_at_all.3F>.
> I'm of two minds here whether I should start actually reverting and
> restoring some of the more obviously wrong-headed deletions that have
> already been done; on the one hand of course revert-warring is bad, but
> on the other hand I'm worried about the fait accompli gambit that
> appears to be in play here.
>
> Really, this is a stupid overreach of notability-mongering. Any given
> random episode of a show like Scrubs has been seen by millions of people
> and is going to be available in DVD box-sets for years and years to
> come, that _alone_ puts it above 90% of the articles we have about books
> or wee little towns or dead congressmen or what have you. We've got
> articles on hundreds of asteroids that are known only by a few orbital
> parameters in a catalogue someplace and there's nary a complaint. I'm
> extremely annoyed.
>
>
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