[WikiEN-l] Newbies who don't act like newbies

[Kwan Ting Chan]

On Sun, 2007-12-02 at 10:41 -0500, Anthony wrote:
> On Dec 2, 2007 10:02 AM, Kwan Ting Chan <ktc at ktchan.info> wrote:
> > What we need to cut out, before it get any worse, is banning of new
> > users because they may become disruptive in the future, on shaky grounds
> > that they already know the way of the land. We should be applauding
> > those that actually RTFM as we often wish.
> >
> Other than this single block of !!, do you have any examples of when
> that has actually happened?

It's not the whole basis of the case, but have you looked at part of the
reason given for the block and the refusal of the unblock request over
this [[User:MatthewHoffman]] case Charles linked to?

Summary on extending a 72 hours to indefinite : "...., it was decided
he's probably a sock, due to knowledge of Wikipedia policy, edit
summaries, ...., etc."

First response in AN/I regarding announcement of the block : "To be
honest, I think an indef would be preferable here. This is quite
obviously a sockpuppet, judging by his abnormally well-informed edit
summaries and knowledge of 3rr technicalites. ..."

> > As has been said, who cares if an account is a returning banned user /
> > friend of WR / ...... At the end of the day, the goal of this project is
> > to create an encyclopedia. If the user is not disrupting that goal, then
> > leave them be.
> >
> I think intent goes a long away, at least in the meta namespace.
> Everyone who participated in the Durova arb com, which ultimately
> accomplished essentially nothing, wasted our time and disrupted the
> goal of creating an encyclopedia.  Should we ban them all?

Yes, intent was implicit in what I mean. If you think "Everyone who
participated in the Durova arb com" was disrupting the goal of the
project, then your definition is much much wider than mine.

KTC

p.s. If you think we should ban them all, does that include everyone who
has taken part in the discussion on this mailing list over this,
including you? ;-)

-- 
Experience is a good school but the fees are high.
  - Heinrich Heine
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