[WikiEN-l] WikiEN-l Digest, Vol 49, Issue 177

[Monahon, Peter B.]

Sorry about the [RE: WikiEN-l Digest, Vol 49, Issue 177] subject line,
but I feel all inclusive today, and maybe this will stir up the "sort by
author/subject search" a little!:

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> [Re: Misogyny is the perfect troll]
> Earlier: ... How many editors actually 
> check what gender another editor is? ...

Peter Blaise responds: Someone's gender is nobody else's business ...
unless you are looking for someone with whom you can reproduce?  If that
is not your purpose, then I suggest we celebrate the beauty and power of
anonymity, and stop demanding that others identify themselves by our own
criteria

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> [Re: Misogyny is the perfect troll]
> Earlier: ... I think this thread needs to 
> end if we continue to get so personal ...

Peter Blaise responds: Isn't that exactly what's being asked about
cleaning up the offensive, denigrating crap that is accepted, even
defended on Wikipedia?  On the one hand, when (the generic) "others"
feel uncomfortable, the response is, "Get over it."  But, when (the
generic) "I" feel uncomfortable, then "this discussion must come to an
end!"

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> [Re: Article authorship was: Making damn 
>     sure image attribution is very clear]
> Earlier: ... Photographers upload their 
> original photographs to Wikipedia ...
> Response: ... Of a reality largely not of 
> the photographer's creation ...

Peter Blaise responds:  Ooops!  What's THAT supposed to mean?
	A photograph is not "of a reality" any more than anyone's
writing, or dancing, or singing, or painting, or any other creative form
speech is "of a reality".  As Magrite painted, "This is not a pipe" -
it's a painting! (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9_Magritte)
	Universally, the photographer gets 100% copyright at the moment
they release their camera's shutter, at the capture of even the latent
image.  Not part copyright to the photographer and part copyright to the
creator of the so-called external reality!  
	Rather than explore if there even IS an external reality, let me
direct us all to review http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright and many
other copyright dialogs across the world and through history, especially
about photography, which has been (legally) considered (US
Constitutionally protected) free speech for more than 100 years already!
Why is this news for anyone anymore?