[WikiEN-l] More Jimbo quotes on Tor

[Armed Blowfish]

On 13/08/07, Kamryn Matika <kamrynmatika at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/13/07, Gracenotes <wikigracenotes at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 8/13/07, Kamryn Matika <kamrynmatika at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 8/13/07, Anthony <wikimail at inbox.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 8/13/07, Kamryn Matika <kamrynmatika at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On 8/13/07, Anthony <wikimail at inbox.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/13/07, Sean <sean at epoptic.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Anthony wrote:
> > > > > > > > That's ridiculous.  If the majority of people don't support
> > this
> > > > > > > > supposed policy, then it's not a valid policy in the first
> > > place.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nice try.  But just in case you're slow instead of simply
> > > > disingenuous,
> > > > > > > I'll explain.  The few people weighing in on AB's RFA do not
> > > > represent
> > > > > > > the entire population of Wikipedia.  Just because one or two
> > more
> > > > people
> > > > > > > with fringe beliefs collect at one brief moment doesn't
> > obliterate
> > > > > > > popular and long standing policy.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > There were more than one or two people commenting on AB's RfA, and
> > > > > > their beliefs were not fringe.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > By the way, NOP is currently described as a *proposed* policy.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Don't be a wikilawyer.
> > > > >
> > > > The difference between a policy and a proposed policy is very real,
> > > > and not an unimportant legalistic distinction.
> > > >
> > > > > And you're right, the policy is fine as it now stands. And so AB
> > isn't
> > > > > banned from anything. That's great; everything's sorted. Let's drop
> > it
> > > > and
> > > > > move on.
> > > >
> > > > AB isn't banned from anything.  But s/he is blocked from editing, so
> > > > everything isn't OK.
> > > >
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> > > AB is not blocked from editing, Tor is, and from my understanding Tor
> > > users
> > > are allowed to use Tor nodes until they are blocked.
> >
> > As far as I'm aware, AB doesn't just use a Tor node. He *is* a Tor node.
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>
> Ah, ok. Well - sorry, but what are we meant to do about that? He's still not
> banned or blocked, unless you count was is essentially a self-imposed block.

It is... but really, all that I needed was some courtesy blankings /
deletions, without on-wiki insistence that I explain why I needed said
courtesies, and private threats to take me to AN/I if I asked for any
more, which would be a great idea if you want me to end up in the
hospital getting my stomach pumped, and I don't think you do.  It
should be apparent that the answer, having been explained now, is not
something I should have been pressed on.

Additionally, nicer blocking messages would be good, but are not
actually necessary.

Armed Blowfish