[WikiEN-l] More Jimbo quotes on Tor

NavouWiki navouwiki at gmail.com
Sat Aug 11 20:19:37 UTC 2007


I'm failing to see why "Jimbo quotes" carry more weight than anyone else's.

I'm also failing to see why we need to allow editors to override a TOR /
Anon proxy block.  I think the latter point has been established already.

Regards,
Navou

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[mailto:wikien-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 3:15 PM
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Subject: [WikiEN-l] More Jimbo quotes on Tor

I present these not as edicts from above, but rather to show that
completely blocking Tor is not an edict from above:

"All I'm saying is that Tor could segregate users easily enough into two
clouds: "We sorta trust these ones, more or less, a little bit, but no
guarantees" -- "We don't trust these ones, we don't know them".

Users in the first group could be allowed access to Wikipedia because
their overall level of bad behavior would be tolerable.  Users in the
second group would still be blocked."

http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Sep-2005/msg00274.html

"First, having a login id doesn't mean that we trust you, it just means
that you've signed up.  One of the reasons that we don't _require_ login
ids, actually, is that it allows jerks to self-select by being too lazy
to login before they vandalize. :-)

But, we could do something like: allow non-logged in posts, and allowed
posts with Tor *for trusted accounts*, but not non-logged-in posts with
Tor, and not logged-in-but-not-yet-trusted accounts with Tor.

Still, there's a flaw: this means you have to come around to Wikipedia
in an non-Tor manner long enough for us to trust you, which pretty much
blows the whole point of privacy to start with."

http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Sep-2005/msg00292.html

Anthony

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