[WikiEN-l] Hardblocking usernames

Armed Blowfish diodontida.armata at googlemail.com
Sat Aug 11 18:52:24 UTC 2007


On 11/08/07, Tracy Poff <tracy.poff at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/11/07, Armed Blowfish <diodontida.armata at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > On 11/08/07, Daniel R. Tobias <dan at tobias.name> wrote:
> > > If somebody is such a strict vegetarian that they won't eat anything
> > > prepared in a kitchen where meat is prepared, or somebody is keeping
> > > kosher so strictly that they won't eat anything prepared in a
> > > nonkosher kitchen, then such a situation means that there are many
> > > homes and restaurants they are unable to eat in.  This is not the
> > > same as saying they're "banned" from those places, however.  (Shades
> > > of Seinfeld's Soup Nazi.)
> > >
> > > Perhaps it's even a matter of necessity rather than choice, as when
> > > they're severely allergic to peanuts and must avoid any food that
> > > even has a chance of having touched something with peanut residue;
> > > this may impose severe limits on what they can eat, and where their
> > > food may come from, but it still wouldn't make sense for them to
> > > claim they were "banned" from places that use peanuts.
>
> A better example would be editing via the protocol set by RFC 1149: IP
> over Carrier Pigeon. We don't accept carrier-pigeon-editing from any
> editor, but that's no reason to say that Armed Blowfish is banned from
> carrier-pigeon-editing--everyone is, after all.
>
> > I still feel banned.  There is more than one option available to
> > unblock individual Tor users.
> >
> > I am, however, uncertain if I should feel complimented that people are
> > trying to convince me otherwise, or hurt that people said I was lying
> > about this.  : /
> >
> > Does it really matter, though?  It could easily be a year before I'm
> > sane again, so I may as well be banned for a year at least.
>
> In some situations, "I still feel banned" would be the important
> issue. However, you were supporting a change to the way we notify
> blocked users based on an argument of 'I am banned, and this would be
> bad for me,' when you are not, in fact, banned; since the community
> uses the word ban to mean a certain thing, and since that particular
> definition was important to this discussion, it does matter that you
> use the same terms as everyone else.
>
> Tracy Poff

But those things were bad for me?

And isn't a block upgraded to a ban when the community denies an appeal?

Really, I'm over wanting to edit... but it would have been good if
more people had been kind about the whole thing.

Armed Blowfish



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