[WikiEN-l] Please stop this Re: The Second Rape: Victim-Blaming (was Re: Self-sensorship, how far should it go?)

[ElinorD]

On 8/2/07, Kirill Lokshin <kirill.lokshin at gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> As for limiting the damage: what people have been trying to tell you
> -- and what some people just don't seem to get -- is that the measures
> being taken *aren't* limiting the damage.  For one, the outing itself
> is already done; the worms can't be stuffed back into the can.  Beyond
> that, though, the people whose questions are being silenced are *not*
> the ones you need to be defending against.  The people who would
> harass SlimVirgin over this are not watching her talk page for news
> about this; they have rather more effective methods of finding such
> things out.  The people who *are* asking, on the other hand, aren't
> doing so out of malice, and lashing out against them accomplishes
> nothing useful.
>
> Kirill



Kirill, some of the people who asked were not doing so out of malice; some
were. Here's one (message redacted by me) who was.

Quick Questions

Hello. Is your name now or has it ever been ________? Are you living in
________ under the name of ________? Have ypu even been employed by a
government intelligence agency?

Just wondering.

Kisses! :)  ~~~~
That user replaced the message on Sarah's page after it had been removed by
an administrator, sent an obscene email to the admin who blocked him, posted
about it on another website showing no regret, and has a record of vandalism
and BLP violations on Wikipedia. Do you seriously think that it was an
honest and innocent question, and that it didn't even occur to the user that
the question might be unwelcome? Do you seriously think that ending it with
"kisses" was not taunting? And that wasn't the only trolling question on
Sarah's page.

As for those who did post in good faith (this is addressed to John Lee as
well, since he has made similar statements), the only credible reaction from
someone whose good faith question was removed from Sarah's page would be,
"Oops, sorry. I should have used private email." And yes, these people
should use private email if their only motive is to inform Sarah of
something they think she might not know about, but which may breach her
privacy. That's what I did recently when I came across something which I
thought she should know, but which I thought she might not like me to post
about on her talk page.

Elinor