[WikiEN-l] Jayjg and COI

[Hello all]

Then Jay, you should have no objection to sending some sort of proof of
this, such as proof of employment, to a Wikipedia staffer? And it wouldn't
hurt having the CheckUser ombudsperson review your uses of CheckUser to
ensure that you've never run a Check against a political opponent in an
Israel/Palestine article and perhaps having someone with Oversight access
check the Oversight logs for any improper behavior.

It's not that we don't believe you but since there IS an Israeli-government
paid and co-ordinated campaign to push a pro-Israel agenda on Wikipedia it
would be a sensible security precaution to do a background check on
Wikipedia's most prominent pro-Israel editor. Don't you think?

On 8/2/07, jayjg <jayjg99 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 8/2/07, Hello all <wikipedian51 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > The point is there is a concerted effort by an organization funded by
> the
> > Israeli foreign ministry to manipulate wikipedia.
> >
> > Moreover, when Hasbara Fellowships asks people to "join the team" I read
> it
> > as indicating not that a team of POV-pushers is about to descend on
> > wikipedia but that they are already here and have been for some time.
> >
> > Anyone even casually familiar with articles on Israel, the Palestinians
> and
> > their conflict has seen concerted POV pushing and edit warring by a
> small
> > group of editors and it's completely logical to assume that some of
> these
> > editors are with Hasbara or some other pro-Israel lobby group.
> >
> > It's also quite logical to assume that a more skilled lobbyist trying to
> > manipulate and influence wikipedia would learn how to play the game and
> rise
> > to a position such as Admin or higher and use his or her position to his
> > employer's advantage.
> >
> > The clear leader of the pro-Israel group of editors on Wikipeida is
> Jayjg,
> > an admin who has been "reminded" or "admonished" on several occasions
> for
> > edit warring and an admin who recently got another editor,
> > PalestineRemembered, banned based on a false accusation.
> >
> > As a security precaution shouldn't we be asking Jayjg to state whether
> or
> > not he is associated with Hasbara Fellowships, AishHatora, AIPAC or any
> > other pro-Israel lobby group? Given his track record of edit warring
> > shouldn't someone review his use of Oversight and CheckUser to ensure he
> > hasn't used these features for political reasons? Should someone who has
> > been warned, "reminded" or admonished on several occasions for edit
> warring
> > continue to hold these administrative positions indefinitely without
> review?
> >
> > If it comes out that Jayjg is Hasbara Fellowship's "team leader" on
> > wikipedia or is associated in some way with an organized and funded
> lobby it
> > will be yet another scandal of essjay like proportions that will shake
> > confidence in Wikipedia. We should take preventative measures now rather
> > than look the other way and let the media uncover our skeletons for us.
> >
>
> Hi User:Shia1. I'm not sure how long you plan to keep flogging this
> conspiracy theory; you've been trying to get someone to bite since
> late June, I believe. For the record, I'm not associated with or paid
> by any pro-Israel lobby group, including Hasbara fellowships.
>
> _______________________________________________
> WikiEN-l mailing list
> WikiEN-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit:
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
>