[WikiEN-l] The Second Rape: Victim-Blaming (was Re: Self-sensorship, how far should it go?)

[Steve Summit]

Jayjg wrote:
> Repeatedly telling people they should leave Wikipedia because stalkers
> and crazies are saying nasty things about them cannot help but be
> confrontational, no matter how many times you put the word "Please"
> before "leave".

He did not say they should leave because stalkers and crazies
are saying nasty things about them.  He said they should leave
because they're unable to deal with stalkers and crazies saying
nasty things about them, *and* because they insist on involving
the rest of the project in their inability to deal.

(Me, I'm not saying they should leave.  But let's be clear on
why Andrew said what he said, because the issue is a seriously
important one.  If not ask certain people to leave, we *do* need
to find ways of helping them better deal with the -- apparently
inevitable -- stalkers and crazies.  We *do* need to find ways of
keeping the rest of the project from getting sucked into these
interminable dramas.)