[WikiEN-l] Another conflict regarding linking to"attack sites"

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On 4/28/07, John Lee <johnleemk at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/28/07, Ken Arromdee <arromdee at rahul.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 27 Apr 2007, Slim Virgin wrote:
> > > > >Having said that, the BADSITES proposal was probably unnecessary, and
> > > > >it attracted the attention of editors who want to be able to link to
> > > > >those sites because they post on them, which led to a lot of
> > pointless
> > > > >fighting. I think it's a better idea to have a sentence or two about
> > > > >attack sites in NPA or the blocking policy.
> > > > >
> > > > I think the whole thing was phony. It served as a platform for them,
> > so they could argue their points.
> > >
> > > I agree. They had a field day.
> >
> > Are you accusing me of being phony, or objecting to the proposal because I
> > post on WR (hint: I'm not on WR), or being a sockpuppet, or otherwise not
> > sincerely objecting to the proposal because I think it's a bad idea?
>
>
> I find this whole discussion ludicrous. It's *basic common sense* not to
> link to /webpages/ which contain personal attacks or any of the sort, unless
> absolutely necessary (e.g. evidence in ArbCom). Similarly, it's basic common
> sense to link to webpages which contain helpful information (but not
> personal attacks), even if these pages are hosted on sites which also host
> personal attacks.
>
> This crusade against linking to any website which hosts personal attacks,
> regardless of the value of individual pages hosted on the site, is beyond
> ridiculous. Its only founding is in an ambiguous ArbCom decision (as
> demonstrated by the different opinions of arbitrators about how to interpret
> it), and it lacks any grounding whatsoever in common sense.
>
> We shouldn't be banning links on a site-by-site basis; if we are to ban them
> at all, ban linking on a page-by-page basis.The most authoritative biography
> of say, [[Daniel Brandt]], may be found on a website which also hosts
> personal attacks on Wikipedia editors. What ought we to do? Cite the damn
> biography, and don't link to any of the personal attacks. It's not that hard
> to do.
>
> Johnleemk


That is exactly what I wanted to say, and if you put that in a policy,
then I would wholeheartedly support it. ~~~~