[WikiEN-l] Fwd: Opt Out for Not So Notable Biographies

[MacGyverMagic/Mgm]

On 4/10/07, MacGyverMagic/Mgm <macgyvermagic at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 4/9/07, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at waterwiki.info> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: MacGyverMagic/Mgm [mailto: macgyvermagic at gmail.com]
> > >Sent: Monday, April 9, 2007 09:10 AM
> > >To: 'English Wikipedia'
> > >Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: Opt Out for Not So Notable Biographies
> > >
> > >On 4/9/07, Oldak Quill < oldakquill at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 09/04/07, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at waterwiki.info> wrote:
> > >> > You are describing original research. Putting together information
> > you
> > >> have gathered from various sources and creating a sort of biography.
> > But it
> > >> is a pseudobiography, without substantial reference to the person
> > described,
> > >> except as they have received incidental media coverage. A golem you
> > yourself
> > >> have breathed life into.
> >
> > >I don't see why compiling an article from multiple sources would be
> > original
> > >research. It's actually good to do it. It means you've verified your
> > info
> > >from more than one source. Original research is when you interpret
> > >information and draw conclusion from it, which I didn't do.
> > >
> > >Notability is based on what someone did in real life, I don't see the
> > way an
> > >article was formed having any relevance to someone's notability.
> > >
> > >Mgm
> >
> > If the person is notable there will be verifiable material in reliable
> > sources which set out the course of the persons life. Original research
> > based on scrapes of information results in a "biography" on Wikipedia which
> > by its nature must omit the non-published information regarding the person
> > necessary to produce an adequate biography.
> >
> > Fred
>
>
> Do you consider a British child actor with a lead role in a BBC children's
> television series notable?
>
> Mgm
>

Because you seem to say that if you can't find all the biographical details
to fully fill in an infobox, someone isn't notable. How about people from
Ancient Greece for whom no biography has ever been written and for whom
their date of birth isn't known?

Mgm