[WikiEN-l] Process wonkery

[George Herbert]

On 9/23/06, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 23/09/06, Guy Chapman aka JzG <guy.chapman at spamcop.net> wrote:
>
> > The problem with the DRV is that the existence of a number of votes
> > from obdurate "all schools are inherently notable" types means that
> > vote counting gives no consensus, whereas a comparison of arguments
> > from policy - specifically verifiability and hence the ability to
> > cover the subject objectively - shows a clear delete.
>
>
> This is a hardened attitude formed by people on VFD as it was who
> wanted to delete all schools from Wikipedia below the notability level
> of Eton. That is: the process was pathological on both sides.
>
> So let's assume every school will be in Wikipedia on the same basis
> that every pissweak or even no-longer-existent hamlet in the US will
> remain. What can be done then?
>
> * Is existence enough? Evidently.
> * So we need proof of existence and basic verifiable information.
>
> There should be enough for a stub at the very least. If you want to
> turn it into a list entry instead, the redirect needs to be in the
> appropriate place.
>
> If you're bringing this to wikien-l to re-fight the school deletion
> wars, you're probably not spending your time well.
>
>
> - d.
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Just for reference, we're looking at a worst case roughly 124,000
school stubs ( http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d04/tables/dt04_085.asp
) for the US.

I understand those that disagree, but I think the categorical include
pseudopolicy for schools makes sense.  They're of immense interest to
most parents, the school system has 72 million odd Americans in it,
and categorical inclusionism here is not in any way throwing Wikipedia
into disrepute or threatening our server load or diskspace.


-- 
-george william herbert
george.herbert at gmail.com