[WikiEN-l] I've Kicked the Process Habit

Peter Ansell ansell.peter at gmail.com
Wed Sep 20 23:35:18 UTC 2006


On 20/09/06, geni <geniice at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/19/06, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
> > See, this is the bit you've noticeably failed to convince anyone else
> > of the need for.
> >
> > Let's try asking a different question:
> >
> > What is the imminent danger to the encyclopedia or its core policies
> > of Phil keeping his ops?
>
> If he continues to use them we have an admin acting not as a janitor
> but as part of the executive. Users have can have no real idea how he
> well use those powers. Thus he will be disruptive. He's already
> deleted a load of stuff without giving a reason we could probably do
> without that happening again.
>
> Process has a tendency to exist for a reason. If an admin is not
> prepared to find out what that reason is then they should not be
> ignoring the process because they are very likely to make mistakes.
> Wikipedia is not anarchy. and admin who isn't going to bother with
> process is out of control of pretty much everyone. An admin who is out
> of control is a problem.

Out of control would, in my mind, only be a constructive notion if one
actually made actions which were significantly distinguishable from
those which they made when they were thought to be "in control". Do
you have significant evidence? (and just the fact that he is using the
delete button doesn't count, the action has to be different from
normal under that defintion)

Peter Ansell



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