[WikiEN-l] Quitting Wikipedia and wanted you to know why.

[Ray Saintonge]

Jimmy Wales wrote:

>charles.r.matthews at ntlworld.com wrote:
>  
>
>>>Why doesn't ArbCom come down on admins who fail to respect
>>>contributors?  Why isn't that a high priority?
>>>      
>>>
>>Why don't we get the cases brought that mean we could do that? We
>>have a clear policy on civility. Some people do reckon that long
>>service gives them some rights in how they talk to others. They are
>>certainly wrong about that, and should note well that ArbCom doesn't
>>have binding precedents, and may well up the tariff of punishment for
>>shooting off your mouth. As far as I can see, this causes a large
>>outcry when it is proposed, but it may well happen.
>>    
>>
>I back Charles 100% on this.
>
>I am on the ArbCom mailing list, and take an active part in it.  I can 
>assure everyone that the ArbCom takes a very dim view of admins behaving 
>badly.  The thing is, unless cases are brought, then the ArbCom doesn't 
>see it.
>
True enough, but if the person being abused is a genuine newbie you 
can't expect him to make immediate sense of the process that would bring 
his case to ArbCom.

>It's pretty easy to say "thuggish admins going wild"... but what is 
>needed are specific examples and cases.
>
Yes, but not on this thread. 

>There is no doubt in my mind that some of what has been raised in this 
>thread is valid.  As the community has grown, it has become harder to 
>maintain the distinction between the kindness and love of Wikipedia and 
>the hostility you find in most of the Internet.
>
Does the fact that I still believe in those principles mean that I have 
been here too long?

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