[WikiEN-l] Systemic bias wrt gender

[Fred Bauder]

On Nov 25, 2006, at 7:28 AM, Alphax (Wikipedia email) wrote:

> Jim Schuler wrote:
>> I find it sad that someone feels the need to have a separate  
>> mailing list
>> for women.  Gender bias is an issue that touches all of us and  
>> should be
>> discussed openly by *all of us.  *As KC noted, separate but equal  
>> is a
>> farce: it is merely separate, not equal, for in the act of  
>> separation power
>> is ceded to the majority, a majority that is often boorish and  
>> smug in its
>> ignorance.
>>
>> It is also sad that when some of the men here spoke out in defence  
>> of women,
>> they were attacked for piling on (the offender had slinked off  
>> without so
>> much as an apology)
>
> Do you think I'm proud of what I said? Do you think I actually  
> meant it?
> Do you think that continuing to attack me would have helped the
> situation? Do you think that there was any apology I could have give
> that wouldn't have been just brushed off as insincere?

Just say you are sorry and get it over with. Then sin no more. I  
think most of us are aware that there is an element of trolling  
involved in this thread, but there are also real problems which we  
need to deal with effectively.

Fred