[WikiEN-l] Kill CSD A7!

[Phil Sandifer]

On Nov 12, 2006, at 5:07 PM, Brian Salter-Duke wrote:

>
> I think this is a really bad idea. PRODs get put on articles that are
> very new, so few people have probably seen them or got them on their
> watchlist other than the author. It will just make many authors,  
> who have
> their work deleted with no opportunity to debate it, to go  
> ballistic. I
> have yet to have any of my creations PRODed, but if it happened I  
> would
> want to argue why I created it.
>

So use the {{hangon}} template on the PROD, and trust the admin who  
looks at it to make a judgment call. Or just ask nicely for it to be  
undeleted, and someone probably will. You only need to persuade one  
person in a five-day period to block a PROD.

> I would also suggest that articles that are put to AfD should not be
> speedy deleted. Once thay are there give people a chance to see  
> them and
> comment. Maybe only cut short the closure if there are 20 delete  
> "votes"
> and no keep "votes". I often see a speedy closure of a AfD debate and
> are curious about what was in it.

The fulfillment of curiosity does not seem to me to outweigh the  
value of minimizing the number of AfD debates running at any given  
moment. Furthermore, it is often beneficial to establish a precedent  
of "kill it with a stick" instead of "debate it a whole lot."

-Phil