[WikiEN-l] CSD T1

[Jimmy Wales]

It is probably significant to note that Anthony DiPierro and Peter McKay
are on the same side of this question.

Anthony DiPierro wrote:
> On 5/16/06, Nick Boalch <n.g.boalch at durham.ac.uk> wrote:
>> Peter Mackay wrote:
>>>> Jimbo's word on the matter:
>>>>
>>>>   The point is, we don't act *in Wikipedia* as a Democrat, a
>>>>   Republican, a pro-Lifer, a pro-Choicer, or whatever. Here we are
>>>>   Wikipedians, which means: thoughtful, loving, neutral.
>>> With all due respect to you and Jimbo, that's not the way it happens.
>>> Thoughtful, loving, neutral, touchy-feely gets good marks, but editors don't
>>> suddenly turn into opinionless automatons. Nor do we want them to. We want
>>> Republicans to have input into articles on the Republican Party. We just
>>> don't want it to be Republican propaganda.
>> With all due respect to you, I think you're slightly misinterpreting
>> what Jimbo (and I) actually mean. I don't think either of us are
>> suggesting that editors should be 'opinionless automatons', just that
>> they shouldn't let their opinions influence the way they write articles.
>>
> I'd say that's pretty much impossible.  If nothing else, what you
> believe is going to affect what you know, and that's going to have a
> significant influence on the way you write an article.  IMO the way
> Wikipedians should produce an NPOV article is through the consensus of
> people with multiple points of view.  Templates regarding points of
> view can very much support this.
> 
> That isn't to say that I think a template which says "This user think
> George W. Bush is a moron" is an example of such a template.  Actually
> I'd say a person using such a template is showing a lack of the skills
> needed to work with others.  But "This user is an atheist", or "This
> user is a Linux user", on the other hand, I think is not only
> non-harmful, I think it is helpful.
> 
> Again just my opinion, but I don't think there's a consensus on this
> matter, and his majesty Jimbo has explicitly stated that he has not
> made an edict on the matter, so speedy deletion should be out of the
> question.
> 
> Anthony
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