[WikiEN-l] Factions vs. Division (was Re: Divisive andInflammatoryBehavior, was CSD T1)

charles matthews charles.r.matthews at ntlworld.com
Tue May 16 19:31:20 UTC 2006

"Erik Moeller" wrote
> On 5/16/06, charles matthews <charles.r.matthews at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> But I wouldn't prefer this.  'Divisive' is clearer than 'ideological': I
>> have just been reading an academic text where it is stated that 
>> "ideology"
>> has at least 100 meanings.  Divisive writing can be recognised by its
>> intention, to split and polarise.
> It is very difficult to know intentions. A policy which operates on
> guessing intentions, rather than determining clear facts, is a
> dangerous thing.

Well, OK.  It is not _always_ very difficult to guess intentions (hate 
speech and so on).  It is better to have a policy that is sometimes useful, 
and relates very clearly to what everyone agrees.  We all agree that driving 
wedges into the community, along factional lines, is very bad.  So we state 
this as policy.  I would see that as the 80 for 20 of the situation: we can 
apply this to some rather stupid or trolling or overtly partisan situations. 
Then manifestos have at least to pay due respect to the principle that the 
community is not to be polarised.


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