saintonge at telus.net
Wed May 3 00:11:10 UTC 2006
Philip Welch wrote:
>We're not hunting down newbies and forcing them to participate in
>deletion discussions. Deletion discussions take place within the
>Wikipedia community, and like any community we have our jargon.
The risk is too high that if they knew about these discussions they
might have a different opinion.
>If someone wants to join that community, they have to learn the
>jargon. Even the most welcoming communities work this way.
Yes, communities do have their jargon, but a welcoming community helps
guide the newbie through the jargon. In the absence of a welcome they
just go away.
>>>Is it offensive to call it "cruft"? No [more] offensive than
>>>its deletion. I guess we should abolish deletion for the same reason
>>>saying "cruft" should be a thoughtcrime.
>>Yes, it's offensive. The term does matter, as a term carries
>>connotations that a simple act does not.
>Again, what connotations does "cruft" carry other than something
>being low-quality or otherwise worthy of deletion?
The connotation that anything contributed by the person who put the
material there is worthless.
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