[WikiEN-l] fancruft

Ray Saintonge saintonge at telus.net
Wed Jul 26 22:16:23 UTC 2006


Alphax (Wikipedia email) wrote:

>mboverload wrote:
>[fixed top posting]
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>>On 7/21/06, Steve Bennett <stevagewp at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>On 7/21/06, Anthony <wikilegal at inbox.org> wrote:
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>>>>Not all articles use something as a source for itself (e.g., using an
>>>>episode of Friends as a source on what happened in an episode of
>>>>Friends).
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>>>>
>>>An article about an episode that cites nothing but the episode itself
>>>is a poor article. It amounts to an article about the Mona Lisa simply
>>>putting a high resolution copy of the image and saying "you can see
>>>for yourself". In order not to violate NOR, we could say very little
>>>about the episode. We couldn't say if it was good or bad. We couldn't
>>>say what fans thought about it. We couldn't say if the jokes were
>>>funny. We couldn't say it was the first time Rachael kissed Ross.
>>>
>>>We could say "The episode lasted 23 minutes". We could offer a plot
>>>summary. We could describe some of the gags. How boring.
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>>I don't see the problem with bending the rules a bit for episodes.
>>Who's it going to hurt?
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>Ultimately, it will hurt the rest of Wikipedia; instead of doing
>*useful* editing, people will be adding /every single detail/ about
>/every single episode/ of /every single TV show that ever was/, instead
>of focussing on areas where we have no information, very little
>information, or information that is inaccurate or doesn't make sense.
>
This is pure speculation

>There's the entirely seperate issue of approaching copyright
>infringement (Wikipedia, your source of TV and movie scripts on teh
>intarwebs!), but I suspect that the point will be lost on you.
>
Completely irrelevant.  Summarizing the plot is about the content, and 
not about the detailed expression in the script.  No-one has suggested 
that we include entire scripts.




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