[WikiEN-l] So you think you can be a Wikipedia article

maru dubshinki marudubshinki at gmail.com
Tue Jul 25 02:40:36 UTC 2006


On 7/24/06, Peter Ansell <ansell.peter at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 23/07/06, stevertigo <vertigosteve at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > --- Peter Ansell <ansell.peter at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Why don't more people focus on the core policies like verfiability
> > > more when they attempt to address so called "notability" issues? :)
> >
> > Because Wikipedia has no leadership. It has 1000 sysops who are just "janitors"
> > according to the dominant view, no editorial core, and a founder who has had
> > argued enough with trolls and has gone wandering off into the land of politics.
> >
> > SV
> >
>
> No management expert will ever tell you that a group of 1000 people
> will ever get anywhere in strategy terms very fast. It is simply too
> large to facilitate effective communication and quick agreement on
> issues. As you say, there is a core community group missing. There is
> the board and related personnel at the top (aka, OFFICE) , followed by
> a small group of judges(aka, bcrats) who dont make policy so much as
> rule on it, and then there are the so called "janitors" (aka, sysops).
>
> Following the highly successful national model with Cabinet, Courts,
> and Parliament, it is the parliament that is missing. Right now, and
> possibly from the wiki culture, the parliament is traditionally the
> whole community with anyone who wants to have a say being able to do
> so. I would contend that the size of such a parliament is limited in
> its ability to make effective decisions.
>
> The current heirarchy does not place any special policy related
> privileges on the sysop layer, and I am not about to say that it
> should, but in ignoring the Parliament layer it is missing an
> essential branch in the proven three prong, "separation of powers"
> model.
>
> Peter Ansell

Wouldn't any democracy-variant simply invite even more sock-puppeting?
I think perhaps voting through one's edits is the only feasible
method, as edits require effort and so put up a barrier to entry
(which in the real world is supplied by the minor barrier that one
cannot easily replicate oneself).  Which is essentially what we
already do.

~maru



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