[WikiEN-l] Exit Interview -- Jon Awbrey (Jon Awbrey)

[Puppy]

Take two, formatted. Apologies for the word wrap issue on the previous 
email.

 >/Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 12:26:26 -0400 /
 >/From: Jon Awbrey <jawbrey at att.net 
<http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l>>

/<snip>

Enough. I have edited articles which Jon Awbrey is involved in editing. 
The words which do *not* come to
mind are "concise, clarity, reasonable, verifiable". The words which 
*do* come to mind are "pontificating,
arrogant, obfuscate, verbose, obstinate". IMHO, the issue is not that he 
has had to deal with POV pushers
and aggressive adversaries. The issue is that he writes reams of 
original research, in overdone
pseudo-intellectual style, which obfuscates rather than clarifies any 
meaning which he might be attempting to
present. When anyone asks what he means, he responds in a condescending, 
rude manner, insulting the
questioner. When his ability to write three paragraphs of personal 
interpretation based upon a one-line source
which only tangentially relates to his edit is brought up as a possible 
OR violation, he dismisses concerns with,
again, insults and insistence upon his superiority. In short, he seems 
congenitally unable to work with others,
unless those others are devotees of his personality cult. Any suggestion 
of modifications of his incredibly
convoluted content additions is met with similar accusations of 
incompetence of his fellow editors. He
frequently makes long, windy posts on talk pages, which neither clarify 
what he is doing to the article nor
address any concerns anyone has raised. A strong mentorship in which 
Verifiability, No original research,
Consensus, Civility, and simple respect for fellow editors would do far 
more to enable him to make
productive contributions to Wikipedia than any kind of guidance on 
"dealing with pov pushing editors and
bullies". Teaching him to communicate effectively would be even more 
help. One presumes he has a point
buried in the massive volume which constitute a single post, but 
locating that point is always challenging, and
usually not worth the effort. This has been pointed out to him multiple 
times, but his response is utter dismissal
of the notion that *because he is the one attempting to communicate 
something, the onus is on him to try to
make his meaning clear*. He has now expanded his love affair with his 
own pontificating beyond articles and
talk pages to this list, and as is usual, the response is an initial 
attempt to understand what on earth he's getting
at, followed by a general numbness at the sheer avalanche of 
self-aggrandizing fluff.

I suggest that if Jon Awbrey wishes to stay with Wikipedia, he be 
assigned strong mentors, and if not, he be moderated from the list. We 
don't need another 10,000 emails of an "exit interview" - if he is 
leaving, a one-line email with the word "goodbye" will cover the subject 
more than adequately.

One puppy's opinion.
-kc-