[WikiEN-l] Article: Childlove movement

[MacGyverMagic/Mgm]

And what about the AFD reasoning that it's a term to collect "boylove" and
"girllove" under one name. Those terms are common and calling them childlove
collectively makes sense (at least to me).

Mgm


On 1/1/06, homey2005 at sympatico.ca <homey2005 at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> Point taken. However, the term "white nationalism" is much more firmly
> established than "childlove". See for instance "The New White Nationalism in
> America", a scholarly book by Carol M. Swain. And also, white nationalist
> claim to be different than white supremacists thus a distiction is made
> (though whether it's a real distinction or just a matter of hiding one's
> views in order to make them more palatable is an issue).
>
> Conversely, there is no distinction between "childlove" and "pedophilia".
> The former is a pure synonym for the latter and its purpose is not to draw a
> distinction of some sort but to serve as a euphemism.
>
> Homey
> >
> > From: Fastfission <fastfission at gmail.com>
> > Date: 2006/01/01 Sun PM 03:17:10 EST
> > To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at wikipedia.org>
> > Subject: Re: Re: [WikiEN-l] Article: Childlove movement
> >
> > On 1/1/06, homey2005 at sympatico.ca <homey2005 at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > > That's insufficient for NPOV, indeed to use a term simply because a
> particular group uses it is very POV. We should not use a euphemism simply
> because advocates prefer it. If we did we'd be referring to "white
> nationalists" rather than "white supremacists", "Racial rationalists" rather
> than "racists", "Historical revisionists" rather than "Holocaust deniers".
> >
> > Not to put a bee in your bonnet but we do have an article on [[White
> > nationalism]]. It actually provides a pretty good example of the best
> > way of dealing with this sort of thing:
> >
> > "White nationalism is a political and social movement to advance the
> > social and economic interests of white or Caucasian people."
> > "White nationalists explicitly deny being racial supremacists, arguing
> > that they merely wish for each group of people with shared heritage,
> > including white people, to be allowed to promote and preserve its
> > heritage, and do not desire to oppress or dominate other races as
> > racial supremacists do. Critics, however, argue that white nationalism
> > intersects with, or is a euphemism for, white supremacy."
> >
> > Now obviously in all cases this level of "neutrality" is not
> > completely warranted -- something like "Holohoax" for example which is
> > nothing but a perjorative. I don't know enough about the case in
> > question to have any worthwhile opinion but I think this is the sort
> > of thing that MGM is getting at.  Other examples include distinctions
> > like [[Pro-life]]/[[Anti-abortion movement]].
> >
> > When something is legitimately a proper name of a "movement" or
> > organized campaign it should generally have an article using its
> > established name, even if it very quickly explains that the name
> > itself is in dispute. Generally speaking, of course.
> >
> > FF
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