[WikiEN-l] Userboxes: A rational proposal

Fred Bauder fredbaud at ctelco.net
Mon Feb 20 13:14:00 UTC 2006

The question I have is how can we establish a workable procedure to  
delete destructive user boxes, one that doesn't generate a lot of  
conflict and wheelwarring. AND make it vary clear that  userboxes  
which just express opinions are perfectly acceptable and not subject  
to campaigns of suppression. I don't intend to spend one second  
watching and voting on Templates for deletion, but I like to not have  
to worry about things going wrong there.


On Feb 19, 2006, at 9:56 AM, The Cunctator wrote:

> On 2/17/06, Philip Welch <wikipedia at philwelch.net> wrote:
>> Stop worrying about userboxes and write an encyclopedia already. If
>> and when userboxes interfere with encyclopedia-writing activities,
>> react in an appropriately minimalist fashion and proceed with the
>> encyclopedia-writing.
>> Quite frankly, the userbox fans are *not* the people disrupting
>> Wikipedia with an unhealthy fixation with userboxes. This isn't to
>> say that they don't *have* an unhealthy userbox fixation, but rather,
>> that they engage in that fixation in a way that doesn't really
>> prevent the rest of us from writing an encyclopedia.
>> The people disrupting Wikipedia—that would be us, writing dozens of
>> messages to this listserv about them. Aren't we the people who
>> actually care about writing an encyclopedia? Then why don't we do
>> that, instead of wasting our time compiling statistics about
>> userboxes, trying to delete them, and debating the right way to do  
>> that?
> The people disrupting Wikipedia, maybe, are the people writing
> messages to the listserv about people writing messages to the listserv
> about userboxes.
> Discussing and formulating Wikipedia policy is as important a
> contribution as is editing an individual article.
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