[WikiEN-l] Unused userboxes

geni geniice at gmail.com
Fri Feb 17 03:10:46 UTC 2006

On 2/16/06, Jimmy Wales <jwales at wikia.com> wrote:
> Having said that, I heard today that the number of userboxes, and in
> particular the number of very problematic userboxes, has exploded.  I
> think this is seriously Not Good For Our Loving Little Community.

"Our Loving Little Community" has been a thing of the past probably at
least as long as I've been an admin. We have 800 admins. Certainly not
little and to be honest there are many on there I don't know at all.

> I am not doing anything about it just yet, but I am willing to concede
> that my nonviolent social request that people knock it off and think
> about what it means to be a Wikipedian has not gotten very far.

When and where did you make that request?

> As far as I can determine, and I am very much aware that I am here
> prejudicing the terms of debate, this is a cultural battle between
> wikipedians and people who have stumbled into this cool site they heard
> about on CNN where you can write whatever the hell you want and argue
> with people for fun.

Nothing is that simple. People who belive " you can write whatever the
hell you want and argue with people for fun" have always existed. Some
learn some give up and some have to be removed. They have always
existed they always will exist. Not really a problem. At least not a
new one.

Trying to profile the sides is pointless since the pure userbax
contiversy cuts across pretty much all the traditional conflict lines.

There is a conflict going on between the older generation and newer
generation on wikipedia but that always happens. The latest generation
is influenced by a different eniviroment to the older ones. They
respond by behaveing slightly differently to the older generations.
This always happens this always will happens. There is some friction
sure but you just have to live with that for the most part it will
sort itself out.

You notice the conflict this time because more than in the past it
effects your role within wikipedia. Simply put when it comes to day to
day running you don't have one any more. The current generation
doesn't know you. They have no reason to. Thus there is not going to
be as much automatic deference.


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