[WikiEN-l] Re: Discussions for Adminship

Ilya N. ilyanep at gmail.com
Sun Feb 5 17:51:42 UTC 2006

But that's exactly what we're doing. An x-day discussion period.

The reason there's a different page is that we were originally going
to suspend RfA and put this procedure where RfA is located right now,
but some people complained, and then Demi suggested we make a new

On 2/5/06, MacGyverMagic/Mgm <macgyvermagic at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/5/06, John Lee <johnleemk at gawab.com> wrote:
> >
> > I strongly agree. Based on my assessment of our current
> > consensus-determining mechanisms, dividing things into a
> > discussion/fact-finding and voting period will rectify a number of
> > problems. (I'm a regular on [[WP:AFD]] where I close debates, [[WP:FAC]]
> > where I've gotten more than 20 articles featured and [[WP:RFA]].) FAC is
> > effectively one huge fact-finding period, as the culture encourages
> > people to rectify problems as soon as possible and notify the objectors.
> > AfD right now faces the same problem as RFA -- people vote before all
> > the facts are in. If [[WP:PROD]] works, I hope we'll be able to change
> > AfD into something like this -- disputed discussions should have all the
> > facts in before people vote. Right now closing admins have to grimace as
> > they "overrule consensus" because they realise that "Ohnoes, the last
> > voter is right and this article should be kept/deleted, but nobody else
> > has noticed!"
> >
> > I'm all for this. Let's bring FAC-style discussion to the rest of our
> > consensus-determining mechanisms.
> >
> > John Lee
> > ([[User:Johnleemk]])
> > _______________________________________________
> FAC has a lot of the same problems. People oppose before things are fixed
> without coming back to change their vote. I'd be happy to see a x-day
> discussion implemented before voting starts, but at most that would require
> a change to the rules of RFA (which is requests for adminship - not votes
> for adminship). I don't see the need to make an entirely new page.
> If this idea was discussed before changing anything, I'm sure there'd be
> less opposition.
> Mgm
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