[WikiEN-l] CSD A7

[Ilmari Karonen]

Thomas Dalton wrote:
> MacGyverMagic/Mgm wrote:
>> I see PRODs get removed too often without any reason for the removal being
>> stated.
>> That's behavior that should be stomped out somehow. Not in a punitive way,
>> but we should still get rid of it.
>
>  The burden of proof is on the person wanting it deleted, not on the
> person wanting it kept. The entire principle of PROD is that only
> completely uncontroversial articles should be deleted without
> discussion - if someone has removed the PROD, for whatever reason, the
> deletion is controversial, and should be discussed fully.

Of course, the fact that someone created the article in the first place 
means that its deletion is, in _some_ sense, controversial (excluding 
any articles created by mistake, but for those we already have 
{{db-author}}).  So interpreting the uncontroversiality requirement that 
strictly may not be very productive.

More to the point, one could argue that the important words in your 
comment are "should be discussed fully", and that anyone demanding that 
an action be discussed first should at least be willing to actually 
discuss it.  Removing a {{prod}} tag without giving a reason could be 
seen as saying "I have an objection, but I'm not going to tell you what 
it is, so I'll just let you spend five days guessing."

Of course, one should assume good faith (unless there is very strong 
evidence to the contrary), and in particular should try to contact the 
person who removed the tag and ask them to explain _why_ they felt the 
article should not be deleted.  This does not mean we shouldn't also 
strongly encourage editors to provide a reason in the first place.

-- 
Ilmari Karonen