[WikiEN-l] When deletionism crosses a line

[David Ashby]

On 12/25/06, Leif Knutsen <vyerllc at gmail.com> wrote:
> I want to raise one specific and one general issue for discussion:
>
> 1) A recently created article about a newly appointed bishop in the Church
> of Norway was nominated by a self-described "disiplined deletionist" for
> speedy deletion. The nomination was subsequently defended on the basis that
> our standards for notability don't say anything about Norwegian bishops.
> Indeed, the standards don't say anything about religious leaders at all, but
> I have to imagine that common sense would lead a reasonable person to
> appreciate that one of the 11 top clergy of the official state church of
> Norway is notable. Should we either update the guidelines for biographical
> notability or impose some standard of common sense, to preempt this kind of
> zealotry?
>
> 2) I am known to take a broad definition of vandalism. I think it's any act
> that disrupts Wikipedia, perpetrated by someone who knows better. So when a
> seasoned editor creates a lot of work for a lot of other people on an issue
> that will surely go one way or another; or plays games with rules; or hides
> behind AGF, then we should be allowed to assume they're up to no good.
> Perhaps we should define bad behavior that falls short of vandalism but is
> still unacceptable. I nominate KNAVERY as the right term, as it goes to the
> saying "he's either a fool or a knave."
>
> And happy holidays and a great, productive Gregorian new year to everyone!
>
> Leif

Has the editor been informed of this person's standing in the Church?
Did the AFD page has this mentioned as a reason to keep?  Was the
article improved to include the importance?  *And was the article
still deleted?*  Passive-aggressive conflict resolution solves
nothing.

-david